Education Thoughts

I've been seeing a lot of videos and Facebook posts of people upset that their children are not learning in school. Or that the behavior in school is so bad, etc etc. I'm sure some of you have seen these too. I was an education major. I went to school to be a teacher and I graduated in 2020. Everything was so bad that year that I decided it was not my time to teach right then. But I know that when I was student teaching there was this really big emphasis on parents not really needing to be involved. There was a lot of talk about "sure it's their child but you really know them better as their teacher." Now I've seen this sudden switch where teachers are blaming the parents for not educating the children enough. It's frustrating to me because I witnessed our teacher leaders, our mentor, teachers, and the other students constantly putting parents down. It was one thing that eventually led to my decision to never teach again in the public schools. I would really like to hear other people's thoughts on this. Have you noticed anything from your children currently in school? What do you think the solution is?
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1. Kids are expected to know a lot more a lot earlier. 2. They don’t hold kids back and the system is failing them by just passing everyone through so if parents aren’t helping teach their children and the schools are also failing them then they really don’t have a fighting chance

I think parents need to be an active part in their children's education, especially behavioral. Everything starts at home. I agree that teachers know a lot about their students, but that's because they see them for 6-8 hours a day, five days a week on average. Education starts at home. It's a joint/team effort between parents and their children's educators to raise intelligent, thoughtful adults.

I have no teacher experience on anything, but as a person who graduated high school in 2020, students were absolutely little shits who thought they should get away with everything. Teachers weren't allowed to discipline in any way. Teachers who took phones because of school policies got in trouble with the principals and the parents for "stealing" a kids property. They stopped giving out detention because that may lead to the kid being bullied. So I just think that because so many parents didn't want the teachers disciplining them at all that it is on them when the kid is being disrespectful and not learning. As well as admin for not backing their Teachers. Also because of the whole pushing numbers and pushing for graduation rates kids are so dumb when they finally graduate. And they don't really hold kids back much anymore which I think is just letting a lot of kids get behind more and more. So there is also a systematic problem

@Cheyenne I'm not sure if they are expected to know more in my experience. It was common when I was little that you're reading in kindergarten. Now a lot of people don't expect reading till 2nd grade.

I’ll try to keep it short: The problem is multifaceted. 1. Parents Many parents are used to putting their kids in daycare, aka “school” that they consciously or subconsciously feel the burden of learning, and discipline, is on the school. Young kids these days are absolute shitbirds, and that’s 100% the parents fault. 2. The administration has taken away the schools ability to fail students, and to punish them sufficiently for behavioral outbursts. So now the kids have no accountability AND when they failed to learn something… Just Scooch to the next grade anyway. 3. Curriculum. For about the past decade, big shifts in both the math and reading curriculums across the United States have been for the worse. Look up “sold a story.” Teachers were forced to adopt curriculums that didn’t actually teach? On top of that, because of the way, school funding is done, “teaching to the test” is ubiquitous at this point.

Almost none of this is on teachers, except in so far as it prevents them from being able to teach.

@Trish purposefully not involving parents might be

Parents are lazy. “Gentle” parenting is being taken too far. Kids have no respect for authority. They think they can do whatever the hell they want without consequence. Parents are so afraid of traumatizing their kids for the most minor forms of discipline. Just a couple of my thoughts lol.

I really think they need to start holding kids back. I say this as a parent of a kid who's struggling in reading. It started with them pulling him out his iep super early when I thought it was still needed and sometimes the school don't want to work with the parents. Me and my husband has always tried to work with the teachers and it hasn't not always been reciprocated. We also try at home to help him with his reading but our methods don't work and we've tried a lot.

@Jessie yeah it's a shame they don't hold them back.

@Annie like every kid needed to be held back that year of Covid. Home school was a joke. I remember days of no assignments just logged in for 10 mins and that was it.

@Jessie I watched a friend's kid during that and he was like "I wish everything could be online school cause we don't have to do anything" 💀

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