Primary school nursery neglected

Hi I’m abit stress and just wondering other mam’s opinion about this. My little girl just started primary school nursery last month. It has been 5 weeks and the school has few red flags. It is an outstanding school but I just feel so off about them. She is 2.5yrs and the first three days, no one changed her nappy, she came home with bulging nappies, pee came through her pants and her jumper is wet(she only in for 3h). I talked to her teacher after three days, they started change her for a week and they stopped again, this last about 10days, she come home with full nappies about 5 days of those 10days. I talked to headteacher and this has stopped for now. And also in these 5 weeks, she bumped her head on the stairs twice, and I receive no forms, no explains and I heard from my girl when she finish school. She tells me the as soon as she sees me. First time, she bumped the back of her head, I went to the teacher, she said no one has seen it and if anything happens I will receive a form. I didn’t do anything more about it. The second time happened today. She came out with redness and little swollen on her cheeks, she told me she bumped her head. I took her back to the teacher and the teacher said she didn’t cry, she was fine the whole three hours, and the swollen looks like the bump happened not long ago. Then I went to the headteacher, explains the whole thing and want an explanation, why she hurt twice and no form and no one has seen anything. The headteacher says, did she tell the teacher, if she didn’t tell the teacher and the teacher didn’t see, there will be no form. / You have the wrong expectations from school, we focus more on prepare kids for primary school instead of taking care them like private nursery./ The teacher done everything right/ You are overprotect your kid./ She probably hurt herself before school( I took a video before I drop her off because we were playing in park and she has no redness on her face) I don’t think I’m asking very much from the school but I don’t want to worry all the time when she is in school too. What if she bump her head third time and it is very serious? Do I expect too much from them? Thanks
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So ur little one is 2 and half, so I’m guessing u are paying for this childcare. At this age yes they are going to have lots of bumps and bruises but I would always expect an accident from to be completed for what happened x

@Elaine it’s for the working parents 15h, I totally understand about the bump, accident happens, it’s just the staffs attitude is saying that we are the picky overprotect parents and they are doing everything right makes me very angry 😠 we are thinking about changing school

You're not expecting too much at all. Nappy changes are essential and should be done morning & afternoon at the pre school. The fact she's hurt herself multiple times and they've not noticed is also just neglectful. I'd definitely look into different schools, sounds like this one doesn't have your best interests at heart and should NEVER say you're too overprotective.... Ofsted wouldn't be happy with lack of nappy changes and accident forms!!

@Megan yeah staff should be about and watching everything. I would be ok with an odd bump they don’t see as can’t see everything at all times. Nappies is a must to be changed as it’s just general care. X

I would 100% be questioning this and likely not returning. My son start preschool 2.5 as well. Hes never come home with full diapers unless he went poop right as i was picking him up which is understandable. But no reason they should be full of pee, multiple times! And the accidents to me feel like, are they even watching out for her? And if they keep saying she didnt cry or they didnt see that would make me even more skeptical. Multiple things here would make me wanna take a step back from this center 🤷‍♀️

@Taya Thanks, we are looking for other schools now, I don’t know how they can say she didn’t cry at all😂 the swollen mark is still there after 6h. I just can’t believe their words. And thinking about she running around in pissy nappy 😠

@Sarah Thanks,I don’t want to take her back. And it didn’t start very well too, me and my husband were so excited when she started her first day. We took a day off and dress her up and playing schools videos to make her have this wonderful ideas about school, and when we drop her off, my husband was trying to let her walk in herself but the teacher just snatched her from my husbands hands and grab the bag close the door, saying see you in an hour🤣🤣 we just feel like ahhh okay…

I'm taken back by the statement we don't care for children like private nurseries, I would take my child out immediately and report my concerns to Ofsted. I'd also stop having face to face conversations and start sending emails or writing letters. That's shocking and that's from a parent and 10yrs early years experience perspective.

Omg that sounds awful! As a teacher, I would say a 2 year old is too young to go to a school nursery (most schools don’t take on 2 year olds) there are usually only 2 members of staff to a class of 30 children in school nurseries. So the teacher and a TA. This means they won’t really get a chance to check nappies etc so often. It’s very different to a preschool setting. For me safety would be a concern too. In a preschool setting the ratio is atleast 1 adult for every 6 two year olds. At son’s nursery it’s 1 adult to every 4 two year olds. The fact they didn’t tell you when she bumped her head or filled out forms is dreadful. It could be this particular teacher is struggling /incompetent. I’ve worked in a school nursery, if a child bumped their head the protocol was to call their parents to let them know immediately.

@Famz but a lot of schools are planning to role out extending nursery provisions to 2 year olds. Since the entitlement for 2year olds changed and is set to increase next year will more schools do this and the same problems occur. Private Nurseries have been fully subscribed since September in my area.

I'd always expect bumps etc because they're little but we always get an accident form on our app which we sign off. The nappy thing is not great, my preschool always change them before they give back. My son always comes back happy. Obvs may be occasional he comes out with full nappy but the odd one is fine because they've probably had a busy/hectic day

@Famz yea, it’s the new policy and a lot of school start take 2 year old now. My girl looks bigger than her age, so they probably treat her not as a 2.5yo. My husband also worked in primary school before and teaching nursery kids IT class things like that. I mentioned to the headteacher just to explain that we do understand what’s the primary school responsibility( reply to her about the wrong expectation thing) And she said oh does he still work in school? The tone is like things have changed😦 In general, the headteacher’s attitude really put me off. They put 3 teachers for 16 kids currently, it’s quite a good ratio and she still hurt herself twice without anyone notice. Just feels like no one is watching. Yea, I heard most school are strict about the injury form, I don’t know how this one like this and it’s an outstanding, thought it means smth

@Anita thanks for the suggestion, email is a good idea, the headteacher asks us in for a meeting, probably just trying to let it pass without any official writing complain. Her attitude didn’t give me any good sign

@Lucy I agree, it’s just the nappy thing first and two bumps with no forms plus their attitude about this, really make me worry to put her in this school. It’s all basic things and all these happen in 5 weeks🥲 I don’t know what’s going to happen in future

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@Megan I do agree that's a lot for 5 weeks, they should be doing a form for sure! And the nappies once in a while is ok but multiple times isn't good.. It can be hard finding a decent preschool, I'm lucky ours is good however the only downside to mine is that one keyworker seems to like trying to diagnose all the kids with something 😂 I've been told mine could be gifted and talented and have PDA 😂 and my friend has been told her daughter could have an audio issue as apparently she gets overwhelmed with noise. Both of us as parents just ignore this as they are literally 2.5 😂 and we don't see any problems

@Lucy Hahaha at least it means the teacher pay attention with all the kids. 2.5 is a bit younger to define those things 😆 she looks like a 3yo I dunno if they just treat her like one or what but it’s not right🥲

Thr school nurseries by me don't change nappies they aren't like a private nursery so aren't expected to do it they are teachers. So maybe speak to then and double check this. As for the accidents yes these happen but I'd be expecting to be told or a form to be sent xxx

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