@Beba considering that you donāt know what I want to hear Iām gonna say If you canāt answer my question as stated you donāt have to answer at all especially if you canāt resonate with it. This is a genuine question. I canāt speak for every black or brown person but Iām not one to go with a fake facade just to keep the peace. literally someoneās quality of life being affected because of how society depicts black Americans and then tryna passively getting them to joke about it to avoid the conversation where as if it was any other culture it would probably be taken more seriously. I refuse to live up to that low standard set for my culture knowing black Americans is half the reason anyone in America has anything and thatās all labor aside. I refuse to be treated differently and my question is if anyone ever experienced prejudice being black. Not if the people in my personal circle are rude to me very different. But thanks for your input.
I think itās even more sad when people from black American communities enable that behavior and how much theyāve personally set back our progression in society just to āfit inā itās disappointing. Truly.
You know, when we African American come off with a strong personality, we are considered racist.
@Syreeta idk what you mean. How does a strong personality depict racism. Can you explain that?
@Stephine when you aggressive (like you are) people will assume you are racist. Also you shouldn't ask for advice if you are going to reject everything. You are acting like a typical ABW. Craziness.
@Syreeta would you like me to google what racism is for youā¦. Or like what?
@Syreeta considering that fact that you donāt know me personally saying Iām aggressive is a bold assumption. Also yes I asked for advice and no one has yet to give me any. Just criticism so far. I donāt speak acronyms as a grown woman either so again please elaborate.
Also note how I didnāt attack your character š
@Stephine you don't want advice ma'am. You want people to agree to your Angriness.
@Syreeta since you donāt have anything productive to add nor are receptive to the information provided. Iām gonna go ahead and ignore you. Thanks for your input though.
I would like to better understand why you explained that you're American and not Haitian nor Jamaican. Is that relevant to the question?
@Alice yes because itās a constant assumption Ive received. Which was omitted for lack of relevance. Itās just something people always say to me. Like idk if it has to do with my skin tone or the fact that my hair is longer than what most people expect black people hair to get but people consistently assume Iām Caribbean of a sort. Which is lowkey insulting not because thereās anything wrong with those cultures but because itās denouncing or belittling to my own. Yes Iām black with long hair and speak articulate and am completely and wholly authentically me and it disrupts peoples I guess ideal of what it means to be black. Like and tbh that lowkey is black culture is just arguing āhow black are youā which is dumb. Like I could rant right now off of that we do it to ourselves.
Like as far as finding a place-to have my own culture completely disassociate themselves with something they donāt deem familiar -country, loud, ghetto-and allow me to experience these things alone that our culture as a whole has fought to NOT experience-racism, discrimination,colorism-is both counterproductive/unprogressive and I feel like just further enables other cultures ignorance and more situations like these. And people donāt usually care until āyour name is on a t shirtā or if it personally affects them. And thatās dissappointing because thatās literally our entire history is fighting to be considered equal just to be further invalidated by my own raceā¦. But then support Barack Obama/ Michele or Oprah. People who donāt sound as country etc like black culture very naturally and logically has a lot of division and itās something we should make an effort to mentally move past but even saying that given said experiences I can understand why we havenāt.The whole merry go round
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@Stephine got it. I'm Haitian and get similar comments. It's because there's a stereotype people expect for black people and they get thrown off if you don't fit it. It seems like people love boxes and if you can't fit in one they already have, they ask questions to make you your own box š¤£. I have to agree with someone else who already commented and say : don't waste your time trying to understand, just move on and live your life...try to surround yourself with people who are uplifting so that the off putting interactions don't get to you.
Iām completely aware of stereotypes and have addressed that in the above. Staying positive doesnāt wipe away bigotry/racism/discrimination tho and Iām not tryna enable it. I am not tryna fit in with anybody. Iām normal itās just ppl want me to conform and I refuse. Especially if things escalate to extremities such as a random example here a car accidentā¦ like thatās extreme rather. I wouldnāt wanna be friends with anyone whoās moral compass is so off so Iām dolo for sure. No matter how desperate they are āš¾I love accountability thatās my favorite word
Like racism is racism there is no get over it.
If moving on is not an option, what kind of advice are you looking for? How to fight back?
My post was to highlight my experience and ask for others experience to see if this was ānormalā no one has said yes so far so it makes me glad to speak on it. Change starts with acknowledgment. unfortunately a lot of people have normalized their traumas to try and cope with the idea of a radical injustice. Just because someone elseās situation may be more severe doesnāt make the others any less detrimental. Someone elses normalization of said extremity is not nor should not be a means to devalue anotherās. Thatās insensitive af. Like oh you scraped your knee but at least you didnāt break your arm. When in reality both hurt. Iām not gonna compare wounds with someone just so they can invalidate my emotions.
You (generally speaking) or I in this case does not need permission to move forward I just feel like a call to action is needed. Lots of people go through stuff they may have grew up thinking is ok. Itās not. I just feel like more people should call that stuff out. Coping tho would help and maybe creating an environment thatās more safe to disagree in or be different in general.
Gotcha. Sorry for misunderstanding what you were asking. No what you described regarding the driver isn't normal. However, it's hard for me to label this as racism without being there myself. It could be racism, it could also be something else (for example a response to tone and attitude). I've had negative experiences like that on the phone, where race is not a factor but tone and attitude are. I'm not accusing you of having bad tone and attitude, I'm only proposing an example of what could cause people to react like this. The comment of "I'm not your chauffer" (I'm assuming thats what he said and you have a typo?) Implies that he felt demeaned somehow and I would be curious to know why. Hurt people hurt people. Sometimes we hurt people without realizing it
Back to the "is it normal"? Not from my experience. I don't experience racial bias like that from Black people in America unless they didn't like something about ME personally and I can't call that racial bias. When I experience things like this, I introspect and try to think about why someone felt the need to be agressive towards me. Sometimes I decide they have their own problem, are racist or otherwise unfair. Other times I do find ways to be more human and more empathetic in the future.
In my other comment I was only empathizing with how people say youre "speaking white" which is ridiculous and I just move on from that, especially if I don't have time to debate about it. Your comment about speaking grammatically correct is also an interesting one. Are you talking about AFV vs English? If so it feels like you're being condescending about it. I say this mainly because AFV isn't English with incorrect grammar, it's AFV ...its own language with its own rules, it's own grammar, and it's own history. Those who can code switch are pretty much billangual and I wouldn't call AFV "speaking ignorant".
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Hey Hun. I know its not what you want to hear but take a step back and dont let any of this people waste your time thinking in anyway about them. I have been labeled many things but as time passed I learned to not pay mind to people who are trying to reflect their personality or thrue self onto me. Best of luck and have a blessed night.