Black /African Americans Discrimmination or just jealousy? šŸ¤”

Has anyone every experienced racial bias from people within their own race. I got labeled upity because of the way that I speak which is clearly and articulately and because of the way I carry myself. Now I've lived here 3 years and just recently started experiencing this on a larger scale. I just started getting involved with events in my community etc. Idk if its a southern hospitality thing where people insert themselves in Your life and business without your consent I've also been called very mysterious which is another way of saying private. I've witnessed ridicule of people based off their body type. I've seen people go through body dismorphea not myself because I'm an extremely secure person even having been born with a birth defect. I'm beautiful and I know it. I've been accused of being a lot of things I would love to list but the one that's been working my soul as of lately is aggressive. I got on the bus today and missed my interview I had today because when I was trying to figure out which stop to get off at I consulted the driver, even with my transit app the driver yelled at me that I'm not his chauffer. I said you're right you're not but you do run the bus route can you just tell me what stop to get off at? He then says you're not supposed to speak to me while driving. When at first he completely ignored me when I did speak to him to the point where I'm literally yelling for his attention. He says oh I didn't notice you. Then proceeds to drive so I had to yell his name again to the point where I'm shouting at the top of my lungs. Then the chauffeur comment and then when I realize I'm 20 min from where I'm supposed to be he blamed me and said well sounds like youbdont know how to work your appā€¦ā€¦ then told me to get off and proceeded to tell me how he doesn't care. Ok fine I say take me home. I wait on the bus I already spent over an hour on just to try to go back home basically fighting back tears at this point and I say ok maybe he's having a bad day etc. I then watch somebody else get in the bus they were lighter than me and a different race and he literary gave these people directions gave them help etc. That made me mad. I didn't say anything. I just waited until it was time to go. I've been experiencing multiple scenarios just like that all around the city of people trying to start to label me aggressive not only that people within my community of I hadn't mentioned already feel if I don't speak ignorantly I emulate that of a white person. Speaking white is not a thing. White is not an English language. English is a language and just because I speak grammatically correct does not mean I'm speaking white nor am I prejudice which I recognize is a southern thing. After 30 years of living I've never been accused of being predjudice towards white Americans. I genuinely don't even know how to deal with this and it's making me feel like maybe I should move. I understand and I've never been the type to take things personally but when it gets to a point where you're affecting someones quality of life based off something as stupid as reputation then its discrimination and its something I legit will not tolerate. I can list schools where my daughter was treated like crap and it affected her self esteem to the point where they made her feel like she wasn't smart. I constantly have to encourage her and I know we are ā€œdifferentā€ and no one likes to preach but me settling for us dealing with this type of treatment simply because of what you (you meaning generally speaking) assume about us is unacceptable. I am a black African American not Jamaican Haitian or any other black presenting race. I'm from America and these are the things black Americans fought against. I never feel the need to justify or prove my blackness ever. My melonin is in my skin. I never felt like I was better than anybody. But I won't participate in things that don't serve me. But lately society has been trying really hard to force its standards down my throat. I am open to whatever type of advice I can get about this but I am purely fed up with racial bias and discrimination in the city of Orlando, my neighborhood. Whatever you wanna call it.again open to advice.
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Hey Hun. I know its not what you want to hear but take a step back and dont let any of this people waste your time thinking in anyway about them. I have been labeled many things but as time passed I learned to not pay mind to people who are trying to reflect their personality or thrue self onto me. Best of luck and have a blessed night.

@Beba considering that you donā€™t know what I want to hear Iā€™m gonna say If you canā€™t answer my question as stated you donā€™t have to answer at all especially if you canā€™t resonate with it. This is a genuine question. I canā€™t speak for every black or brown person but Iā€™m not one to go with a fake facade just to keep the peace. literally someoneā€™s quality of life being affected because of how society depicts black Americans and then tryna passively getting them to joke about it to avoid the conversation where as if it was any other culture it would probably be taken more seriously. I refuse to live up to that low standard set for my culture knowing black Americans is half the reason anyone in America has anything and thatā€™s all labor aside. I refuse to be treated differently and my question is if anyone ever experienced prejudice being black. Not if the people in my personal circle are rude to me very different. But thanks for your input.

I think itā€™s even more sad when people from black American communities enable that behavior and how much theyā€™ve personally set back our progression in society just to ā€œfit inā€ itā€™s disappointing. Truly.

You know, when we African American come off with a strong personality, we are considered racist.

@Syreeta idk what you mean. How does a strong personality depict racism. Can you explain that?

@Stephine when you aggressive (like you are) people will assume you are racist. Also you shouldn't ask for advice if you are going to reject everything. You are acting like a typical ABW. Craziness.

@Syreeta would you like me to google what racism is for youā€¦. Or like what?

@Syreeta considering that fact that you donā€™t know me personally saying Iā€™m aggressive is a bold assumption. Also yes I asked for advice and no one has yet to give me any. Just criticism so far. I donā€™t speak acronyms as a grown woman either so again please elaborate.

Also note how I didnā€™t attack your character šŸ˜‰

@Stephine you don't want advice ma'am. You want people to agree to your Angriness.

@Syreeta since you donā€™t have anything productive to add nor are receptive to the information provided. Iā€™m gonna go ahead and ignore you. Thanks for your input though.

I would like to better understand why you explained that you're American and not Haitian nor Jamaican. Is that relevant to the question?

@Alice yes because itā€™s a constant assumption Ive received. Which was omitted for lack of relevance. Itā€™s just something people always say to me. Like idk if it has to do with my skin tone or the fact that my hair is longer than what most people expect black people hair to get but people consistently assume Iā€™m Caribbean of a sort. Which is lowkey insulting not because thereā€™s anything wrong with those cultures but because itā€™s denouncing or belittling to my own. Yes Iā€™m black with long hair and speak articulate and am completely and wholly authentically me and it disrupts peoples I guess ideal of what it means to be black. Like and tbh that lowkey is black culture is just arguing ā€œhow black are youā€ which is dumb. Like I could rant right now off of that we do it to ourselves.

Like as far as finding a place-to have my own culture completely disassociate themselves with something they donā€™t deem familiar -country, loud, ghetto-and allow me to experience these things alone that our culture as a whole has fought to NOT experience-racism, discrimination,colorism-is both counterproductive/unprogressive and I feel like just further enables other cultures ignorance and more situations like these. And people donā€™t usually care until ā€œyour name is on a t shirtā€ or if it personally affects them. And thatā€™s dissappointing because thatā€™s literally our entire history is fighting to be considered equal just to be further invalidated by my own raceā€¦. But then support Barack Obama/ Michele or Oprah. People who donā€™t sound as country etc like black culture very naturally and logically has a lot of division and itā€™s something we should make an effort to mentally move past but even saying that given said experiences I can understand why we havenā€™t.The whole merry go round

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@Stephine got it. I'm Haitian and get similar comments. It's because there's a stereotype people expect for black people and they get thrown off if you don't fit it. It seems like people love boxes and if you can't fit in one they already have, they ask questions to make you your own box šŸ¤£. I have to agree with someone else who already commented and say : don't waste your time trying to understand, just move on and live your life...try to surround yourself with people who are uplifting so that the off putting interactions don't get to you.

Iā€™m completely aware of stereotypes and have addressed that in the above. Staying positive doesnā€™t wipe away bigotry/racism/discrimination tho and Iā€™m not tryna enable it. I am not tryna fit in with anybody. Iā€™m normal itā€™s just ppl want me to conform and I refuse. Especially if things escalate to extremities such as a random example here a car accidentā€¦ like thatā€™s extreme rather. I wouldnā€™t wanna be friends with anyone whoā€™s moral compass is so off so Iā€™m dolo for sure. No matter how desperate they are āœŒšŸ¾I love accountability thatā€™s my favorite word

Like racism is racism there is no get over it.

If moving on is not an option, what kind of advice are you looking for? How to fight back?

My post was to highlight my experience and ask for others experience to see if this was ā€œnormalā€ no one has said yes so far so it makes me glad to speak on it. Change starts with acknowledgment. unfortunately a lot of people have normalized their traumas to try and cope with the idea of a radical injustice. Just because someone elseā€™s situation may be more severe doesnā€™t make the others any less detrimental. Someone elses normalization of said extremity is not nor should not be a means to devalue anotherā€™s. Thatā€™s insensitive af. Like oh you scraped your knee but at least you didnā€™t break your arm. When in reality both hurt. Iā€™m not gonna compare wounds with someone just so they can invalidate my emotions.

You (generally speaking) or I in this case does not need permission to move forward I just feel like a call to action is needed. Lots of people go through stuff they may have grew up thinking is ok. Itā€™s not. I just feel like more people should call that stuff out. Coping tho would help and maybe creating an environment thatā€™s more safe to disagree in or be different in general.

Gotcha. Sorry for misunderstanding what you were asking. No what you described regarding the driver isn't normal. However, it's hard for me to label this as racism without being there myself. It could be racism, it could also be something else (for example a response to tone and attitude). I've had negative experiences like that on the phone, where race is not a factor but tone and attitude are. I'm not accusing you of having bad tone and attitude, I'm only proposing an example of what could cause people to react like this. The comment of "I'm not your chauffer" (I'm assuming thats what he said and you have a typo?) Implies that he felt demeaned somehow and I would be curious to know why. Hurt people hurt people. Sometimes we hurt people without realizing it

Back to the "is it normal"? Not from my experience. I don't experience racial bias like that from Black people in America unless they didn't like something about ME personally and I can't call that racial bias. When I experience things like this, I introspect and try to think about why someone felt the need to be agressive towards me. Sometimes I decide they have their own problem, are racist or otherwise unfair. Other times I do find ways to be more human and more empathetic in the future.

In my other comment I was only empathizing with how people say youre "speaking white" which is ridiculous and I just move on from that, especially if I don't have time to debate about it. Your comment about speaking grammatically correct is also an interesting one. Are you talking about AFV vs English? If so it feels like you're being condescending about it. I say this mainly because AFV isn't English with incorrect grammar, it's AFV ...its own language with its own rules, it's own grammar, and it's own history. Those who can code switch are pretty much billangual and I wouldn't call AFV "speaking ignorant".

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